and first the nomination is hillary clinton's if she wants it, now, she's going to take a year or two deciding, but my best guess is given she ran in '08 and came so close and certainly wanted to be president, that she will in fact do it and if she does, i believe she'll get the democratic nomination and be a formidable candidate. >> what about on the other side, if you're a republican thinking about running? who, does anyone stand out in your mind at this point out of the pack, the sort of issue suspects, we could talk about a few of them. there's rubio and there's others, and chris christie might be one although some people might disagree with that. >> and jeb bush, in fact, there's a very deep bench, i think, on the republican side. there's a lot of people who will be possible, and who will want to come forward. it might be-- it's possible 2016 will turn into quite a fracus on the republican side and a stately walking towards the coronation on the democratic side. i mean, i say that within the context of knowing that four years of history can turn any number of things on their head